Curse

Dr Imperial · Jan 20, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

wait...what!?

VendingMachine · Jan 20, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Please I hope after this week they won't change SoH

TABellis · Jan 20, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Oh Yeah! This could only be temporary...wonder how they determine what stays and what doesn't. Hopefully this doesn't stay.

Dr Imperial · Jan 20, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45

oh man am i praying for it to go back. i dont even do this tombs for money really its just fun..... please anet

Carmine · Jan 20, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53

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Originally Posted by TABellis

Yeah, they already found a way to Nerf us poor Sin's from having original builds to farm with. Kinda sucks. You pretty much don't need the echo, cause you won't get a chance to use the second SF...Anet's the pits, man. They just don't like farmers.

Whoa. How long is your SoH? If you're at 14 Shadow Arts, this just a few seconds off your second SF...as many seconds as you were running to your target, which shouldn't generally be more than 5 seconds of run anyway.

As for the change...I second the motion that this build is for fun, not money. Even in typical non-echoshadowform builds, a nice long shadowform is really useful, and usually at lower levels of shadow arts, so you can dash in, do your damage, and flick out instantly when you're in danger, rather than a 1/4 second targeted cast on return or a dispelled Aura of Displacement. Shadow of Haste is a great tool, and the reduced duration really hurts low shadow arts builds.

darkrawlinson · Jan 20, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

ok, yeah A-net is being jack ass again. Anyways, it is still soloable.. its just harder now.. Especially killing the wurms. Anyways ill post an alternative way tomorow when i get home from church. As for now, good luck fellow sins. remmber that you 0nly got 35 seconds of combo... cus.. Soh= 43 seconds - Echo (2seconds)- running time to enemy = around 35 seconds. This means that your sf recharge is only about 35 seconds adding up to the fact that you got 15 seconds dat the wurm will regen. ill post any updates

Dr Imperial · Jan 20, 2007, 04:16 AM // 04:16

yeh i tried it with rawlinson and some others earlier today and it is a little harder but its actually not that bad, but you just cant be too far away from enemies when you cast SoH and you should a get a good combo or two done.

Lelle Adivo · Jan 20, 2007, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Just replace SoH with Recall. It works in groups or just on the first stage. For groups just leave 1 back. You can throw in Death Blossom instead of Dark Escape.

The changes are just for the weekend anyway.

Elements_of_Galaxy · Jan 20, 2007, 02:25 PM // 14:25

I think they nerfed it because of Capture the Relic in HA.

Skuld · Jan 20, 2007, 03:38 PM // 15:38

GvG teleways and so on more likely.

Crazyvietguy · Jan 20, 2007, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by Skuld

GvG teleways and so on more likely.

This is true, It wasnt a direct nerf to this build... or else they'd nerf SF.. yeah but the run is still doable.. just a little more difficult.

TABellis · Jan 20, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Have any of you noticed, since this change, if you still end up killing the creature, but only becuase of conditions (poisen, bleeding), and you are shadow stepped back out of range before it dies, the creature doesn't drop anything? Does being out of range cancel the drop on a creature in general?

My War Can Solo Everythin · Jan 21, 2007, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Tested this build, it works, me and my friend reached HoH and dropped greens,
i think its better to duo cause its more quick^^ time ago i soloed tombs with w/n

It was fun, but it takes about 8 hours XD

fatband · Jan 21, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42

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Originally Posted by TABellis

Have any of you noticed, since this change, if you still end up killing the creature, but only becuase of conditions (poisen, bleeding), and you are shadow stepped back out of range before it dies, the creature doesn't drop anything? Does being out of range cancel the drop on a creature in general?

i think when you dont see yourself gain any experience you wont get the drops.

5h3v4 · Jan 21, 2007, 07:56 AM // 07:56

first of all thanks to the creator and the modififiers of this build..it's great!

and,for the SoH nerf...i was just thinking...if it end during the 2nd SF...why don't use another dmg skill over Dark Escape..something as...crit strike(good for ene too)..or new Blade of Steel for Great dmg?

darkrawlinson · Jan 21, 2007, 09:19 AM // 09:19

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Originally Posted by My War Can Solo Everythin

Tested this build, it works, me and my friend reached HoH and dropped greens,
i think its better to duo cause its more quick^^ time ago i soloed tombs with w/n

It was fun, but it takes about 8 hours XD

eh??? I didnt know W/N could take d Aggro from monsters dat well. Anyways wurms are harder now... if ur gonna solo replace de with anoder attack, i suggest BoS cus of damage output.. oh and yeah its better if u dual.. use recall instead of soh and have one person or ur hero stand still... Anyways id like to see pixs of d build and what not.

Crazyvietguy · Jan 21, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Guessing that it was a Grenth Farmer, which would take ages. Unfortunately Tombs is a LOT slower now. I use a monk hero with Heal Party, Healing Breeze, Rebirth, and Blood Ritual. It kinda speeds things up some. I have no Monk friends that want to sit around for 6 hours while i kill people

Hanging Man · Jan 24, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

ok first off

congrats rawlinson for posting this amazing build. I have made a sin speciffiacally to see it accomplised and its one of the best things I've seen since the opeing of Guild Wars.

But I need some help. On the second level I don't know what to do about the wurms. Where do I have to drag them? So if any sin here could possibly point me in the right direction thatd be much appreciated.

IGN: Daggers of the Goths

SanchO987 · Jan 25, 2007, 03:56 AM // 03:56

WoW, I'm using this build right now (not in tombs, still need to ascend in tyria) in random places around Cantha up to Arborstone and it seems like it can solo almost anything! Gonna try out ghial soon, may work though getting there may be a bit of a problem........

VitisVinifera · Jan 25, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09

this build won't work, solo, against many (any non-starter?) bosses. Most have healing skills, and Factions/NF have natural +3 regeneration, which would about cancel out all your damage by the time your skills recharge